I would get your family out of America. People downplaying this are willfully ignorant. Maga pretending it’s all hysterics are wrong, tankies pretending this is business as usual because “America bad” are wrong.

All the groundwork is laid to mass imprison and deport dissidents, the definition of dissident is widening, we are witnessing a complete lack of checks and if your last hope is violence from the populace or the military to fix this then I think Americans need to trust their gut and recognize this place isn’t worth staying

You rule for your comment. The mental gymnastics conservative leftists go to justify the current state of affairs while propping up counties that have literally nothing to do with socialism is insane. They’re as programmed as maga. They argue in bad faith and their ideology is incoherent

I also think while yelling racial slurs should not be illegal, organizing and mobilizing under a racist ideology that promises to eliminate free speech should be criminalized. The tricky part is doing it in a way that won’t be abused ie calling things that aren’t racist and supremacist ideology those things to criminalize them.

If only there was an art vs porn emergency button encoded into the law. You just know it when you see it and can call things what they are

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Opposition party doesn’t get to sleep when they are the minority or voted out. It’s their job to rally and agitate. That they do not means they are actually okay with what is happening

I doubt most people see Luigi as a savior, just a symbol of retribution in a world that lacks justice

Genuinely curious, why are there rich people in China? Or why are the rich allowed to exist?

I still think the distinction matters, fascism is the empire turned inwards.

America exerting fascism on other populations is just textbook liberalism. The facade of democracy and relative peace at home is different than fascism. Fascism demands obedience of the local population and is a full merger of corporation and state. Laws don’t matter, only the head of states will matters.

They’re both bad, but I think it’s disingenuous to tell people who are about to live under fascism that the liberal government they just had was also fascism because they oppressed populations around the globe.

Basically the time for lectures was when we were living under fake “fascism” and the time for gun and survival training is now

I don’t disagree that liberal democracies are capable and have been brutal to their populations, but to say they are just as brutal as fascism is just disingenuous. Contrary to popular belief, the average American does not live day to day in fear that they are about to get fucked by the state for no reason at all, and that’s even acknowledging the measures the state goes to criminalize and punish the most desperate in us society. We don’t fear state repression and death for the wrong opinion, looking a certain way.

It’s even more absurd to conflate fascism with European western democracies with their myriad of safety nets. I think painting things in this light doesn’t make socialism more appealing, just makes fascism look more acceptable and less dangerous.

I agree with critiques on us imperialism and the need for socialism, I just think it’s strange to treat fascism with kids gloves

I think this is the critique I share. A lot of leftists who seem to be from outside the US are putting on their theory and history caps and pointing out how bad the US is as an imperial power, ignoring that right now Americans who see what is happening would do anything to revert things to the way they were even if that was the neo liberal status quo. Sure could have used this analysis in more peaceful times when the Jakarta method wasn’t a real possibility facing socialist discourse. When facing fascism at home the last thing you care about is exactly the precise and correct way history should play out. In this sense I feel like the left absolutely fails constantly, for all the talk of international solidarity there sure is a lack of organizing. Can’t organize with anyone who isn’t a Marxist, I guess?

I also feel like saying the US was always fascist is skewing the definition of fascism and defanging it. “America was always fascist” makes it seem like the real fascism we are facing should be business as usual. Fascism is a distinct and brutal form of capitalism. Marxists have known about this, and I feel conflating with neo liberalism is revisionist.

The analysis is correct, in that America was always a force of oppression across the globe, but that doesn’t change the fact the local population enjoyed some sort of stability and predictability. Economically suppressed with a corporate two party system? Of course. Arbitrary overt censorship and rounding up of civilians? Not necessarily, and that is where we are going. Is it hypocritical to turn a blind eye to the suffering of people around the world? Sure, but most people are not aware of this, and doesn’t change the sheer terror you begin to feel when the oppression comes home.

Plumbers party

I wonder how fast “L is real” spam would get flagged on reddit

They reeaally doing anything they can to get that martial law step started from their project 2025 handbook

I remember this episode

Anyone that meets the working class where they are to build class consciousness in terms they understand are building the working class movement.

But I guess we can nitpick and siphon the air out of any sort of potential for progress by doing the work of fascist apologists. Jailing and killing socialists will really bring about the perfect revolution we need

Who needs the CIA when we have useful idiots that sink any working class movement with shit like this

Yes let’s shit on fascist resistance with “uhm actually”