The order could place the military under the president’s total command, like never before.

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        At this point I’d wager a US military leadership coup + 4 years of marshal law would result in better governance than anyone in the Republican party leading. After 4 more years of an unrestricted Trump, not so sure.

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      Kind of already happened last round. There’s reports Mark Milley staged somewhat of a soft coup with the joint chiefs, and then they withheld troop numbers from him when he ordered a withdrawal from Afghanistan.

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    I’m downvoting any and all articles that mention something that ‘could’ or ‘may be’. Wake me up for anything factual and/or actionable.

    Join me in eradicating this type of junk

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    Good thing everyone still has guns. Sounds like someone might be needing to raise a militia or two against a new king some time soon …

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      Are u gonna do it?
      Best case scenario you are looking at is a civil war with about equal chances. The sooner the better.

      Best chance - official action by Biden.

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        Haha I’m Australian mate, my only hope is that our authoritarian potato doesn’t get any ideas.

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    Okay as a Middle Eastern guy Trump taking a sledgehammer to the US military will probably be the only good thing to come out of this.

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      If successful, they’re going to purge the military of non loyalists who believe the constitution is more than a doormat. The goal is to violate posse comitatus it seems.

      I wouldn’t cheer this on.

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        Yeah, it’s not going to work that way. The Joint Chiefs are already holding meetings on how to handle illegal orders from Trump, and those would go out the window.

        Facists always pick people for loyalty first and competence a distant second. This is ultimately self-defeating, but they can do a lot of damage before things take their course.

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          they can do a lot of damage before things take their course.

          That’s what I’m concerned about.

          The supreme court and Congress are basically the only things to slow him down. They both did his bidding as a citizen.

          What makes you think they’ll resist meaningfully with the mandate of the people behind him?

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          the only good thing to come out of this.

          Are you hoping for a situation that involves maximum death? The guy who promised retaliation against voters, and elected officials - is trying to remove all the stops that has kept the military in check. This doesn’t end the drone strikes, mid-east oil grab deals, arms deals, or world policing for most countries.

          It turns the police and military into a group under his control, without people present to stop his ridiculous impulses.

          As a guy who isn’t on their lists for appearances, I’m slightly puzzled.

          Please explain, how you think that a more murderous and ideologically aligned military will be good for you or anyone.

          There are lots of intelligent strategists in the group you seem to write off.

          There’s every chance you’ll be on their list of targets.

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            Please explain, how you think that a more murderous and ideologically aligned military will be good for you or anyone.

            I was more referring to how Trump will likely prioritize loyality to him over merit, which will result in the US military becoming a less effective fighting force overall, as usually happens with fascist regimes. It’s a slightly contrarian silver lining more than anything.

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              Yeah. So the ones who don’t fall in line will get kicked out. The military is a place about compliance. There are ways to segment the rules and compartmentalize for folks like that.

              History seems to suggest a slightly different story for this.

              Once given the command; people will mostly fall in line, almost fully once consequences get serious.

              There doesn’t need to be massive brilliant strategists to cause massive damage and maximum death. Minimizing death and surgical strikes are where skill and intelligence are needed.

              I fear you underestimate the size and effectiveness of the technology the US military has been amassing on the taxpayer dime.

              A mostly crippled russian military in Ukraine is still steamrolling and pushing people around blusteringly.

              Yet they struck Kyiv, ~2 hours ago as of this post, to limited effect.

              https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/blasts-heard-ukraines-kyiv-reuters-witnesses-report-2024-11-13/

              putin’s country has arguably experienced a massive ‘brain drain’.

              So in effect, your opinion seems to be… “I think this will weaken the US military capability.”; "I prefer more suffering to less suffering because screw other people, even innocents. "

              You’re putting yourself in the same intellectual bucket as those who wish ill upon you.

              What are you in favor of sadist?

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                Yeah I’m not saying Trump being in control is a good thing. Like I said: It’s a slightly contrarian silver lining more than a serious take.

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                  I fear you underestimate the intensity of the heat you welcome upon us all.

                  I wouldn’t wish this result on anyone.

                  This will set all of humanity back. Do you think we all deserve to marry 9 year old girls as property?

                  What’s your logic for holding this hate?

                  Do you want people to say “screw you as well”?

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      No, it’ll be the worst possible version of itself.

      All potential jokes about “yeah like it could get worse lol” would be proven shortsighted if this goes down.