• John Richard@lemmy.world
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          4 months ago

          I don’t know where you live, but visiting your courthouse, watching trials and seeing the evidence and crimes people do in your area can be eye opening too. You have to ask yourself… without police, would there be more crime? Some places the answer may be no. I get that. Where I live, crime would be much more rampant.

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            4 months ago

            How is it law enforcement to show up hours after a crime and refuse to file a report?

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              4 months ago

              I don’t know, but as a citizen you collect evidence & file a complaint. Refusing to take a report of a crime is certainly an issue that should be reported. As citizens we have to hold police accountable & try to vote for people that will help hold them accountable and create systems to ensure that issues are dealt with.

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            4 months ago

            police are the bottom tier of law enforcement AND they don’t even have to know the laws when they are FORCING you to comply

            ask anyone with any experience in the other tiers of law enforcement and you might get a good idea of what law enforcement is

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              4 months ago

              I acknowledge a majority of police are blatantly in a position to do as thy will without any repercussions. There are a lot of bad judges too. I am not a fan of the issues, but we also have good judges and good cops, and places where the system is working as intended (for the most part). I have a hard time believing that getting rid of all law enforcement would be a good thing. I know there are people that like this concept, but there are gangs and groups of people that just want power themselves and to enforce their own concept of judgement and control without repercussions.

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                4 months ago

                the police is not all law enforcement

                police are a modern creation. civilized society can exist without the police. In the USA, police weren’t even a thing until 1838

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                  4 months ago

                  What do you propose then. It is easy to say ACAB & defund the police. I’ve heard the same from drug dealers and people that I don’t trust to protect and serve. If you have a proposal then send it to your representatives or run for office and try to get it implemented.